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Smoker ([personal profile] justicereigns) wrote in [community profile] piratejournal2013-12-07 09:06 am

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All Shepherds, meet on deck for tea time and discussions.

Keimi check in as soon as you can.

And yes, we're getting low on coffee, and cigars. I'll survive, [No, he won't.] but I still refuse to switch to tea.

For all you pirates out there, what did you lot do before you came here? Occupations, careers, whatever. I need to know what freedom you're fighting for, let's just say.
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2013-12-07 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Phoenix Ikki.

[There's just a brief pause before Ikki speaks again. He's not one to care about clarifications, but he must make one here.]

For the record, in the place where I'm from, humanity as a whole resembles a plague to the world. Humans have forgotten even themselves and are worse than animals at times. They kill each other over pointless wars just to see who can claim a piece of land that grants nothing to them, over half the world starves and dies to mere colds while a few privileged ones have everything they could wish for and yet claim for more. They are selfish, arrogant, they think that the world is there to serve them, for them to take everything it has without worrying about how damaging it can be... About what kind of ruined world they will leave to their own children. People spend money they don't have and leave their children to shoulder the debt, they use each other and throw each other away like trashes. And the world dies because of it, nature and animal life are pushed to their limit. It's probable that in a few hundred of years humanity will bring the world to a point where life isn't possible anymore, human or not.

But not all of them are like that. Not all humans are like that or have so little care about themselves and the world. I saw it, even in the hellish place on Earth, where children are sold in exchange of food as slaves, where slaves are worth even less than beasts... I saw someone who didn't belong to that humanity, someone pure with a good heart that only knew of love and compassion, who endured all the pain with a small smile, always praying for the best, always trying to do whatever was in her hand to make a difference, even a little one. Even at the cost of her life. It's for people like that which I fight for, because as much as the rest of humanity in my world has become lost, there are still some who, given the chance, may make a difference. As long as people like that are born, I can't see humanity being the plague gods claim it to be.
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2013-12-07 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The same thing as back in my world.

I have a question for you now, what does it matter if there's one or more marines with good in them? In your world, if you found a man that fought for people who were being oppressed, that defended them when the local authority failed to for whatever reason. Would that matter to you? Change the fact that they are criminals? If you were in charge of hunting down criminals, would you not chase them because they have good in them even if they work on the opposite side of your law?

[Ikki doesn't really know this man, but he doubts anyone would really let that sway them from their duty. If they were, who is to say that they couldn't be swayed by the wrong things?]
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2013-12-07 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
So, you would still consider them your enemies. I think the same of the marines here, if they don't attack me I won't harm them, but so long as they raise their weapons against me, or my crew... My hand won't hesitate, because I know that even when two people fight for the greater good, if their convictions don't match, there's no one they are going to be swayed.

[Pause.]

The Spade Pirates.
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2013-12-08 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
In case you missed it, we were put in this position of sailing outside the law, whether we like it or not. And that is enough for them to feel that the must attack if our little encounter on Nuevo Empieza is any indication.
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2013-12-09 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
[There's silence before Ikki chuckles.]

Aah, that's right. That guy was a nobleman, supposed to be adored and respected even as he beat down another human being, because said beaten person was a slave and thus deserved it. That incident was mostly the captain, not the whole crew, but I have the feeling that you don't care about that detail. And neither does the Navy.

[There's a short pause before Ikki adds something in a very neutral tone.]

Just so you know, what you just said is something I've heard a couple of times before. To be precise, on the mouths of Poseidon and Hades, to justify the need for humanity to be wiped from the world, apparently us rebelling against their attempt to destroy humanity did nothing but "prove them correct" as to why we all should be destroyed. Just wanted to note it as a funny little coincidence.

[Except it's not funny, neither Ikki really considers it a little coincidence. He knows that this man is with the Shepherds, that crew that decided that they would hunt down others for piracy, despite having to real jurisdiction or right to do so beyond just their own hearts and consciences. And now he has heard him do everything he can to defend and justify the Navy for attacking them, throwing blame of one incident caused by one person of the crew into the rest of them, "alienating" them for who they sailed with. Ikki hopes that back at his world the guy is a policeman or something similar, it certainly sounds like one.]
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2013-12-10 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't mean to say that you think that.

[But he thinks that this man may be the close minded type. Or the type that forces himself to be close minded because if he isn't then everything he knows will be thrown upside down and destroyed leaving him with little that remains sure and true. It's not something Ikki likes, in fact he despises those things, but he understands where they come from.]

Yes, most probably they are. I'm sure that most of the pirates they are used to aren't searching for the gem just to get back home, neither visit islands to explore them. And having people appear out of no where... With the way this world seems to be I'm sure they consider it dark magic and thus something evil even without extra provocation on our part. Do I enjoy them being our enemies? No, I would prefer if they ignored us and just focused on the pirates of this world, for their own good. But things can't be that way, and if I've to fight them I won't hesitate, it's that simple. You can argue that we could avoid getting on their targets list, but I'm not going to allow something I don't agree with to happen just to keep my own skin clean.

[There's a pause as Smoker asks about "that name", only now he realizes that when he asked for a name again it probably was that one and not his own.]

I can tell you many things, but I'm not sure they correlate to whatever Poseidon means in your world. Anyway, Poseidon is a god in my world, one of the strongest ones. Together with his brothers Zeus and Hades, he stands at the top of the world, even above other deities. Zeus rules over the land, Poseidon over the sea and Hades rules the Underworld, the land where people's souls go when they die. In my world, Zeus left on a journey centuries ago and left his domains in charge of his daughter Athena, ever since Poseidon has often tried to claim control over the land and more recently tried to make a "spring laundry" with humanity as I mentioned before.

[His next words come in a lower tone as he remembers how the attack occurred. How it started and how long it took them to even realize what was going on.]

I don't remember the exact numbers but I'm sure that the victims were on the miles by the time we were able to counterattack, he caused an eternal heavy rain to fall over the land while the sea became ferocious and raised, devouring beaches and islands as if nothing. It could have been worse, had Athena not offered herself as a sacrifice and convinced Poseidon to drop an equal amount of water over her as the one he was dropping over the land, had he thrown it all on the land we would have faced what could be considered an end of the world.

I'm surprised you don't ask about Hades, though, since for me Poseidon and his brothers are names that are always easily tied together. Doesn't that name ring any bells for you? Unless you know him by another name, he was called Pluton in another culture, though that wasn't his real name.
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2013-12-11 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The end of the world, eh? Any reason why or is it the same great reasoning they use in my world?

[He's assuming that Poseidon and Pluton are people as well, or gods or something like that. Though it's curious that they would use those names, mixed cultures from his world.]

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the gem will serve us for anything good. But it's clear that the questions we have aren't going to be answered by anyone but ourselves and for that we have to explore and look for those shards or anything else that may be useful.

I understand why the Navy acts the way they do, but just because I do I'm not going to stop doing what I have to do. We're appearing in this world through powers probably beyond their comprehension, just for that they would shoot us and ask later. And with how we're all directed to the fountain and the legend of the shards? No, I don't think it's really possible to strike a deal with them, I know I wouldn't be willing to make a deal if I was in their position.
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2013-12-15 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
[Sounds ominous. But rather than by the weapons, Ikki would be worried about the people using them. By themselves they would hardly be dangerous after all, not unless they are sentient somehow like the Cloths.]

Of course. I'm sure they would prefer much more if they had such a weapon under they control, to make sure that no one uses it to destroy the world. With that in mind it certainly justifies that they would execute people just for sailing without license and punching a noble. Anything to protect the world. And everyone knows that killing those who you consider criminals doesn't count as murder as well, right?

Listen now, I don't fucking care what you think or believe, but know this: Killing someone without even a trial, without a real proof that they are criminals, and even under those conditions, it's a murder. It's a complete disregard of lives, just as the one we have supposedly showed. No one's life is worth more than others, noble, Navy soldier, pirate or civilian. A murder is a murder, no matter how much you sugarcoat it, how justified it was or how many other lives it saved. The only real difference between them and us, is that we know that and don't bother to hide it or lie to ourselves, saying that it's for the "greater good" or expecting some kind of regard for our souls when we die. "Justice" is nothing but a dirtied and corrupted word when used to justify a murder, no matter the circumstances.

I don't blame them for wanting to protect their world. But I blame them for allowing people to be used as slaves, I blame them for protecting someone who uses and abuses of others just because he has more money than them. I blame them for thinking that killing someone, just because they consider them a criminal, is "justice" and makes them morally superior to us who attack them for taking our comrades.
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2013-12-30 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ikki sighs, exasperated.]

Exactly, what the fuck do you want? People promising and swearing that they won't kill any soldier even if their lives depend on that? Or that we all back down and leave Isla Empieza, and the Navy, who knows better, and just hope that the new arrivals aren't stupid enough to get killed right away?
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2014-01-02 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Said a guy who is assuming the worst of us all already. If I didn't think it would be too stupid I would think that you would prefer every one of us killed since we're pirates and terrible people who go around punching nobles and hurting poor innocent soldiers. Except the kids, maybe.
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[personal profile] uccellodifuoco 2014-01-13 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
[Ikki snorts at that. "Maybe". Apparently admitting it clearly was too much for the other guy.]

So this wasn't real curiosity or interest, just a way to assure yourself how evil we are and how much we deserve death. That no one but you, and maybe your crew, really fights for any valid justice?

Guess it doesn't matter then if we make it worse or not by killing those soldiers, since we're already judged and condemned.