3rd Sky Journey 🐺 Family Quarrels 🐺 [Written] (Open to people who are not called Haytham Kenway)

[givemelee]

[Well, it was finally out in the open.

Although Ratonhnhaké:ton had not gone to great lengths to hide the truth from his father there had been a few occasions where he had omitted certain details. He had wanted to get closer to Haytham in order to let him see through example that his way of thinking was wrong- but there had not been an incident that led itself easily to teaching this lesson.

If he had to he would kill his father- he'd done so before... but like that time Haytham would return. Just as disconcertingly, Haytham was already trying to build a new Order.. something that could not be allowed]

I have another question to ask of you.

[A slight pause as if he was questioning if he should continue or not]

If you were faced with someone who is hardheaded, willful and stubborn.. [All the "compliments" betrayed the fact that Ratonhnhaké:ton was severely annoyed] yet it was imperative that you try and convince them to change their opinion on something... what course of action would you take?

[OOC Edit: Ratonhnhaké:ton's attempt to make this private can fail if Haytham mun wants to reply XD. It's all good here]

Comments

Voice

[sun_goddess_sacrifice]

It would depend on how imperative the matter was, and if all options had been pursued. I suppose if left with little choice dispatching them would be the solution. There are times when such a thing is the only option.

Voice

[givemelee]

His life may well depend on it.. [.. Because if he doesn't change that makes us mortal enemies] though I do not believe I have exhausted all the options yet. [They haven't even sat down to discuss the issues openly.]

Given what is already known about this world, if it did come down to what you have suggested... then it could start an unending cycle.

Voice

[cry_brady]

I just keep at it. If it's that important, I ain't gunna give up. I'll knock 'em senseless if I have to!

[no he won't.]

Voice

[givemelee]

I have no intentions on giving up.. [Since this world has pretty much guaranteed that there is no alternative] though I was unable to sway his opinion back home.

voice

[inferiorcomplexes]

Whip the fool.

voice; I lolled XD. I was more amused by it than Ratonhnhake:ton!

[givemelee]

You are suggesting torture? [You could hear some of the disdain in Ratonhnhaké:ton's voice. So far everyone was leaping almost immediately to physical violence] Pain can break a man's spirit, but it would never change his heart.

Voice - private

[elissacousland]

You could always try enlisting the aid of his lover.

Voice - private

[givemelee]

[The word was distasteful to him, he'd been trying not to think about the relationship going on between Elissa and his father... but since she brought it up]

... but Kaniehtí:io, my mother, is not here or I would. She understood the importance of upholding freedom and she would not be dissuaded from her ideas.

[Voice]

[under_the_wire]

Just kill 'em. Problem solved.

[Voice]

[givemelee]

.. And when they return?

[written]

[questionablewit]

Depends entirely on the situation, I'm afraid. Is this a life or death situation or a case of someone stealing all the cookies and refusing to give them back?

[Yes, clearly it's more important than cookies; her point is that this is too vague for any advice to be useful.]

[written]

[givemelee]

I am afraid that I am not at liberty to clarify it just now. [He's got some thinking to do. Both Assassins and Templars were fairly secretive- but would it be so terrible to expose Haytham for what he is? If he's chosen this same path- there is no reason to be protecting him]

I assure you that it is very serious.. and could affect much of this world's population.

Voice

[fierybluebird]

Beats the hell out of me, mate.

But if you find out, let me know, eh?

Voice

[givemelee]

As of right now- it is looking impossible.

written

[thatched]

None. If you've argued your case and you still can't convince them of your way, then it is what it is. Let them go their way and go your own.

written

[givemelee]

It is not as simple as that. If I stood by and did essentially nothing... the issue.. would grow in strength and influence.

[1/? - Private and Silent as the Grave]

[orderispeace]

[Here he had thought of replying to this 'private' posting, made not so much by a sympathetic party, to give a lecture but... there were mother issues there and feelings he saw no reason to explain.

To reply or allow Connor to feel as if he were still in the dark about this all?]

[2/? - Private and Silent as the Grave]

[orderispeace]

[Course...

Elissa knew he had seen it and would be on him if he said nothing at all... besides... ]

[3/? - Private and Silent as the Grave]

[orderispeace]

[Wasn't really his nature to avoid a challenge. ]

[4/4 - Private Voice]

[orderispeace]

I could ask you the same question. I think I will start by pointing out the chaos unrestrained freedom has wrought upon the citizenry. Surely you can see now that there needs to be some form of Order just to protect those who lack the means to protect themselves?

[And no mention made of Ziio. ]

Audio;

[hiken]

Let 'em think what they want! What's important is what you think, pal!

Audio;

[givemelee]

In this case, ideas can be dangerous. If left to his own devices... it could affect a lot of people negatively.

[thepurpleway]

Imperative in what way?

Opinions are hard to change. They're really based on everything that's lead up to the current point of development.

Is this person an android or some other artificial being? You could just change their programming if you're skilled with electronics and computers.

[givemelee]

In the sense that it could harm a lot of people.

I never had the chance to learn much about his early life- [A pity really]

An android? I am sorry.. but I do not follow. [He's never met one of those, and the electronics and computer bit fly right over his head too.]

Audio;

[madeofswords]

Why are you so confident your way of thinking is the right one?

Audio;

[givemelee]

.. Because I have seen where the path he has chosen leads already...

written:

[oneofthelost]

[That question? Is one she can't even begin to answer. Really, she'd like to know herself. Not for here, but for where she's from. For everything she has to do there. For the war she's been told she has to help wage.

But that's not really important.

What is... is that she knows that kind of mood. Different in everyone, yeah, but there's only one thing she can do. An offer that might be turned down.]

Want some company?

written: Private

[givemelee]

[It is a difficult query, and he wasn't really sure what sort of responses he'd been expecting. Perhaps the most good he would get out of posing it in the first place would be the chance it gave him to vent his frustrations. You could only bottle them up for so long.

Normally, he would have tried to keep as much of this to himself as possible but Alex catches him at the right time. They had discussed some serious topics before and considering the direction his interactions with Elissa probably would take he was eager to speak to a friendly party that was not so directly related to his problems.]

I believe that I will take you up on that offer.

[Now where could they talk without worrying about prying ears on a ship....?]

Can you meet me in the hold? [People tended to stay out of the bottom portion of the ship unless they were taking inventory, needed some supplies, or didn't want to be found]